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pmespersc2 replied to your post: i am so fed up with casters going on a…

A good 90% of the scene is Koreans winning everything. When foreigners do well it’s a big deal.

this is the kind of attitude i really don’t like about the scene. Koreans winning. no, it’s taeja winning. it’s hyun…

Well. No. Sorry. You know that whole ‘representation is important’ thing people harp on about when it comes to media and shit? Well that holds true in Starcraft. Taeja is literally the SC2 bonjwa. And before him it WAS Hyun. And $o$ is a great player. But when 99% of all wins just go to Koreans, who aren’t particularly interesting in interviews, who don’t stream, who have little english, who USUALLY (emphasis on usually) have little to no personality because that’s just how their culture works and that’s what’s expected of them, yeah it IS a big deal when foreigners hit a stride. When foreigners MIGHT be consdiered in the leauge of the best of the best. Lots of Koreans win events. Yoda won IEM in 2013. Do we look fondly back at his victory? Well…..no….we don’t. Because there’s nothing particularly special about it.

There are plenty of Koreans with lots of results and tons of fans. Lets not start looking down on the community because some people want to get hyped for players OUTSIDE of Korea. Fuck THAT attitude.

koreans usually don’t have personalities? that’s just bullshit tbh. for example just a little time ago in the gsl ro16 group selection they literally talked shit for 2 hours. yes, for many people there is a language barrier and i’m in a better position here because i (kind of, sort of) understand korean, but it still doesn’t mean they don’t have a personality. having or not having a personality has nothing to do with culture.

maybe some of them are not super talkative in interviews because they are in a foreign country and awkward nerds, sure. also one thing that affects interviews a lot is the interviewer, some of them are not even interested in hearing the players, they don’t even talk to the players, they just talk to the translator. but for example redeye is actually really good at this, he talks to players and gets nice stuff out of the nerds, and he listens and makes more questions.

but don’t tell me foreigners automatically have some kind of outstanding, interesting personality. i understand why snute is so popular, he is a talented player and a super nice guy, but so many of the non-koreans don’t actually give that interesting interviews either. the foreign hype is there even if the person is dull as dishwater.

also, this same wcs points/ blizzcon foreigner hype was going on last year too, but it was about naniwa. and naniwa has shown a lot of personality, but A HUGE part of the community actually hated his guts cos, you know, he was mostly a dick. still people supported him, people chose to support an asshole over nice koreans (who show personality on interviews and are active on social media too and try to work with the english skills they have) so it’s clearly not just about personality.

i’m not telling who you should or should not support. of course it’s perfectly fine to have favorites who are not winning all the things. lol, my favorite is soo, and he doesn’t seem to catch a break either. i also like welmu just because he is a fellow finn, he is actually from my country. but i don’t get the korea vs rest of the world setting. i don’t feel particularly close to people from, let’s say spain for example, why would i?

what i don’t like is the general bias casters/ interviewers/ analysts/ commentators spread to the community that foreigners are automatically more important and special. that one commentator at gfinity actually said that “if snute goes to blizzcon, literally everyone will cheer for him” like it’s a fact. there is little to none of that attitude you described - looking down on community for liking foreigners. what i’m writing here is not looking down on people who root for foreigners, this is a completely separated topic.

Filed under reply sry for the wall of text i'm also not saying that everyone should fondly look back at every victory of course there are some victories people personally like more i'm a big fan of gsl but classic winning was a huge meh for me

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pmespersc2 replied to your post: i am so fed up with casters going on a…

A good 90% of the scene is Koreans winning everything. When foreigners do well it’s a big deal.

this is the kind of attitude i really don’t like about the scene. Koreans winning. no, it’s taeja winning. it’s hyun winning. it’s sos winning.

korean progamers are not one entity, they are real people with real personalities. the non-koreans players are not somehow special compared to korean players. every-single-one of them matters. every one of them works really hard for their own individual success.

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i am so fed up with casters going on and on and on about wcs points and blizzcon all the time, especially when it’s 99% about is snute getting there is bunny getting there. come on. there are so many other players hovering close to the cut. but oh, right, we don’t care about the koreans. ugh.

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